Bug #3464
Inconsistent icon overlays for start and stop date
| Status: | Needs Feedback | Start date: | 2009-05-26 | |
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| Priority: | Could have | Due date: | ||
| Assignee: | - | % Done: | 0% |
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| Category: | Design | |||
| Target version: | TYPO3 6.0 | |||
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| Votes: | 0 |
Description
Currently the same icon is used for all scheduled states you can produce by filling in the the start and stop fields look the same. We are using different files, but the icons look the same. While in principle you can solve this issue by producing different looking icons there is one issue which can only be resolved by coding.
Editors should be informed about the following three states via different icons:
1) item is currently visible (green clock in screenshot)
2) item is not visible anymore (red clock in screenshot)
3) item will be visible in the future (light green clock in screenshot)
Unfortunately you can only reflect the third state via an icon if both the start and stop date are set to the future, because then the system will use an icon with the suffix '__tf'. But if only the the start date is set to the future, the icon with the suffix __t is shown, means in this case we have the same icon for 'not visible anymore' and 'will be visible in the future'.
Can we perhaps change that behaviour, so that if only the start date is set and the start time is in the future the icon with __tf is shown?
History
Updated by Uschi Renziehausen almost 4 years ago
- Category set to Inconsistency
Updated by Uschi Renziehausen almost 4 years ago
- File content-datetime-current-state.png added
- File content-datetime-future-orange.png added
- File content-datetime-future-blue.png added
Updated by Uschi Renziehausen almost 4 years ago
Please note that this issue is currently discussed in the 4.3 project list (search for the thread with the same topic) here are mockups for what the datetimestuff could look. First how it looks right now:
Basically I think that we have to decide about two things separately:
1) Do we want to visualise the three states 'currently visible', 'visible in the future', and outdated.
+1 by Uschi
2) If 1, then which colors those clocks should have:
Solution a (traffic light):
Currently visible = green
Visible in the future = orange
Outdated = red
+1 by Uschi
Solution b:
Currently visible = green
Visible in the future = blue
Outdated = red
Updated by Philipp Gampe almost 4 years ago
Uschi Renziehausen wrote:
Basically I think that we have to decide about two things separately:
1) Do we want to visualise the three states 'currently visible', 'visible in the future', and outdated.
+1 by phil
however I still prefer having a blue clock for the future:
Solution b: Currently visible = green Visible in the future = blue Outdated = red
Updated by Jens Hoffmann over 3 years ago
- Priority changed from Should have to Could have
-1 Dousn't looks like TYPO3.
Uschi you can't give your self a +1
Phil you are not able to give +1 s
Updated by Jens Hoffmann 11 months ago
- Category changed from Inconsistency to Design
- Status changed from New to Accepted
- Target version changed from TYPO3 4.3 to TYPO3 6.0
I still think the Idea and the concept is good, just the style is misleading.
Updated by Philipp Gampe 11 months ago
- File page-types-icons.png added
Hi, I added the current icons again.
You can see that there is only one overlay, even if multiple attributes are set.
A page that expired looks the same as one scheduled to be published.
A page online with start and stop date has a light box.
User restriction is only shown if no access restriction is on place.
The icons are two small to fit more than one overlay to it.
Thus we can either reduce the overlays to little dot, making them hard to understand to newcommers,
or we leave it as is, making newcommers wunder why a page is not visible for all users
or we invent new icons (I guess that is not possible or even more confusing)
or we use more than one icon (nogo IMHO) and clutter up the tree
or any further ideas
I still like having different colors for the clocks. This solves at least the issue with the past, online, future access restrictions, but not in combination with fe user group restrictions.
Note: One can always figure out all restrictions by howering over a page icon.
p.s.: funny that I already discussed about this topic two years ago :)
Updated by Jens Hoffmann 11 months ago
- Status changed from Accepted to Needs Feedback
We should think about different ways than
Icons, to communicate this information.