Usability Team

Are we trying to improve usability or are we just polishing the look? Who said it should be easy? ;-)
Here I think the problem is as usual: Typo3 is run by programmers, for programmers. :-(

Of course this can be changed if we want! Why not do it on the T3UXW09? Or at least make a plan for the change and do it bit by bit, like:
- First put non SysExts in their own Extras module
- Second put Info, Access, Wizards and Templates in the Functions module
- Third rename Web to Page and move Properties here
- Fourth split up the Template parts and put them in their own module

Mayby the first thing is to "update" the code for how to handle the vertical module? My guess is that it is very "hardcoded" and not very flexible. But sometime sooner or later this has to be changed...

BTW, where do I find this PDF document that is mentioned here and there? I can't find it!

Thanks for all your Input. I hope you don't
get mad or me wrong if I partly disagree. :)

I think the order should be more direct context
driven instead of a technical context sorted order.
And I think it needs more self explaining names.
I would like to try to avoid a redundant name.

As I got it right from the core guys. Changing the
Names is easy, but changing the order is quite hard
to do. I fear this is a task for TYPO3 5.0 and not for
TYPO3 4.x because it would to complicated to do.
But maybe it would be cool, if this could be changed.

We need feedback from a core guy again.

Did you saw the TYPO3 5.0 stuff we made?
We change a lot there >> http://tr.im/t35ui/

Have a look here >> http://baiz.org/typo3/fileadmin/downloads/HCI.pdf
... last Update of the PDF was 06.11.2006 .. but to be fair it is a lot older :)

Hi Jens,

We need feedback from a core guy again.

to me it looks as if we can work this out somehow. We have so many clever people at t3uxw, there we could make this work if you already have a concept and know what needs to be done, etc :-)

Greets,
Sebastian

How could a good order look like?
What might be better titles?

User Actions:

• Pages & Content (EDITOR)

• Page
• List
• File
• Workspaces
• Recycler
• View
• Functions
• Info

• Templates & Structure (INTEGRATOR)

• Template
• Scheduler
• Typoscript Help

* User Administration (ADMIN}

• User Admin
• Access
• Log

* System Administration (TECHADMIN)

• Install
• Configuration
• Extension Manager
• DB Check
• Reports

• Help

• TYPO3 Manual
• About TYPO3
• About Modules

I had thought about this .. a long time ago :)

Is the rearrangement accepted?
I would add a patch to be included with 6.0.

In my eyes a very relevant improvement for the new major version.

Hmm .. I think we didn't found a final solution jet.