123 Blog

Added by Maik Hagenbruch almost 7 years ago

123 Blog - Cyril Wolfangel

Creating a kickstart blog package with a set of skins.


Replies (22)

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Lorenz Ulrich almost 7 years ago

What exactly is the Goal of 123 Blog?

- Extension for TYPO3 CMS, TYPO3 Flow or TYPO3 Amazingly-new-CMS? If 1, based on Extbase/Fluid?
- What position does it take compared to Wordpress? Is it a blog that works well out of the box? Or does it target more complex setups for Corporate blogging (different Blogs within one installation, widgets to place whereever you want, aggregator)?

Thanks for your answers.

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Wolfangel Cyril almost 7 years ago

Hy there,

Actually, all the informations i sent with my application are missing ??

I copy paste them here:

123Blog
TYPO3 could benefit from being more popular, this is the main goal of 123blog.
The more people use TYPO3, even for basic websites, the more TYPO3 will be seen by potential entreprise clients. 

- 123Blog replaces wordpress installation when you want to quickly start a new website. 

- 123Blog is another install_tool package, easy to deploy, delivering a simple and flexible template.

- 123Blog integrates a fully featured starting blog type website

- It's possible to download templates and play about with the look and feel of your 123Blog website without being an TYPO3 integrator.

- 123Blog is following the best pratices with regqrd to templates and developpement.

- 123Blog will also be a template framework, it is very easy to create new skins.

- we will team up with linked projects to choose which template technique to use for the 123BLOG thèmes and develope the featured 123Blog skin.

Milestone:

Starting in january 2013, ending in june 2013

- 1st meeting:
Technical specification about the skin
Creating the first graphical draft 

- 2nd meeting: 
Integration and developement, créating the first package

- 3rd meeting: 
Finishing the starter skin

Begining of the blog features developement. 

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Jan-Hendrik Heuing almost 7 years ago

@cyril: I'll check if something got lost on it's way, so we can update the documents... Thanks for pointing it out!

Jan-Hendrik (Expert Advisory Board)

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Felix Oertel almost 7 years ago

123Blog will also be a template framework

Erm, sorry ... what? ;-) What about TYPO3 Fluid?

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Markus Günther almost 7 years ago

Nice idea to create a real blog extension in TYPO3 extbase and TYPO3 fluid, but i dont understand the whole template framework stuff. You still have TYPO3 fluid so everybody is able to change the templates with fluid, HTML and CSS.

The TYPO3 extbase team also wants to adjust the etxbase blog example. The goal is to get a fully working blog extension with a theme as an well documented example for an extbase extension. So maybe you can join the team and we can use this as a blog also.

If you have questions you can get in contact with me.

greets markus

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Lorenz Ulrich almost 7 years ago

I'm not sure if we really need a Wordpress-like blog application. If I just want to have a blog to can be styled easily, I would choose Wordpress. But what I'm really missing is a flexible, Extbase/Fluid based blog application that integrates well with TYPO3 structures: Multiple blogs in different folders, content elements can be used as blog content, widgets that can be placed anywhere etc.

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Steffen Gebert almost 7 years ago

Yes, the approach sounds to me like the idea of t3blog. I tried that once and just wanted a blog. But I got really weird templating stuff and I was not able to really use it.

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Steffen Ritter almost 7 years ago

im undecided... On the one hand for sure the "one-click-install" base package could gather more attention to project.

But it has to be maintained afterwards and for a blog only TYPO3 will never compete with wordpress - why should it? It's not a blogging system... Therefore why try to rebuild what others do better - that's not TYPO3 purpose.

Therefore I do not think, I want to fund this project as it is...

What I really would like to see, and aims for the same direction, is package builder - like you can select features, build your custom package and have a basic preconfiguration...

make multilang, add languages xyz
add workspace
add a news system,
add a calendar
and so on...

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Philipp Gampe almost 7 years ago

IMHO this should be usable on TYPO3 CMS too (if this is a Flow/ Phoenix package) and be based on Tx_News.

What I would really like to see here is a good support for pingback (both receiving and pushing). This should be usable on a per content element and on a per page base.
Once you got that and combine it with Tx_News, Comments and easily changeable templates, than you already have all you need to create a blog.

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Georg Ringer almost 7 years ago

fully agree with Philipp. EXT:news got already 80% of a blog system. What is missing:
- a generic pingback
- comments based on extbase, maybe complet ajax driven like disqus
- a generic blog design
- having a good way in the BE or FE to create articles
[x] done.

or what are the reasons to invent the wheel again, having blog_example, news and 123blog?

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Wolfangel Cyril almost 7 years ago

The main idea here is to make the entry ticket for TYPO3 a lot easier for beginers, to convince more people to use TYPO3.

Even if they are not our main target business wise, those users have bosses, famillies, friends and so on, who are potential clients.

It means also more members for the association.

We're willing to work on this package as a big marketing tool, wich would make TYPO3 more popular.

to Markus Günther, great idea, why not joining our ressources on this, i propose that you guys works on the blog features, and we work on the template as an extension, and the package feature ?

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Philipp Gampe almost 7 years ago

Well, there is

  • Tx_News for articles, including relations, categories and tags
  • Tx_Dialog for comments
  • Fluidtemplate for layout
  • Gridelements if more complex layout is needed
Missing is:
  • Pingback support
  • Easy template switching module (although the introduction package could be pimped for this as it includes support for different subpackages)
  • Maybe a module that ties all pieces together, like the page module (there is News Admin)

It sounds a little like please T3A, sponsor my personal project so I can sell it later, but I do not have money to create it on my own. I do not intend to be rude, but I do strongly prefer to reuse existing, tested components and use the flexibility of TYPO3. If done, it should be done the TYPO3 way, not a bad copy of Wordpress (ok that is not possible, but you get the point).

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Jan-Hendrik Heuing almost 7 years ago

Hello Philipp,

I am not here for shifting any favours into one or the other direction, as we would like feedback from the community what they think about the budgets. So if you don't like the budget at all, this is fully ok.

But maybe there is also a misunderstanding:
What Cyril is aiming for is a package to make it very easy to use typo3 as a blog, for those the initial barrier is too high to take. Your solutions sounds good (for me personally, there are too many components involved), but it is too complex for beginners anyway - so that's the difference.

You're welcome to provide loads more feedback :-)

Jan-Hendrik (Expert Advisory Board)

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Stefan Padberg almost 7 years ago

I support the statements of Phillip Gampe and Georg Ringer and Steffen Ritter. The mentioned features are needed but we dont need to reinvent the wheel.

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Wolfangel Cyril almost 7 years ago

here we are, and this is why TYPO3 is not popular, developpers have this really specific vision wich does not include any marketing views.

If the best products were the most populars, windows wouldn't be the leader for OS.

Please understand that i don't have any personal interest with this product and i'm thinking about TYPO3 here.

I'm at the T3CON, please come to me to talk about it !

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Thomas Löffler almost 7 years ago

What about a TYPO3 Blog Package with a extended EXT:news extension and some examples?

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Wolfangel Cyril almost 7 years ago

So, we all agree that some features already exists and it's more about packaging them now, and doing a marketing work to make TYPO3 more accessible for beginers. That's great and it's probably the best way of doing this, we will have to code only of necessary.

I would suggest then that we gather people who did already some features and people with a marketting view .

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Georg Ringer almost 7 years ago

contact me any time if you gonna use http://forge.typo3.org/projects/extension-news

RE: 123 Blog - Added by Felix Nagel almost 7 years ago

No need for another half working, not maintained extenion. We already have tt_news, t3blog and timtab for that.

An improved version of Ext:news would be great.

Some ideas:

  • predefined layouts, such as "latest comments" and "latest news".
  • comments (with moderating functionality, and I would prefer a non third party application)
  • trackback
  • pingback
  • better DAM / FAL support
  • blogroll (optional)
  • importer for t3blog (optional, I would do that)

The only problem is that extbase (and therefore news) do not support workspaces and localization yet.

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