Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association

Added by Michael Stucki about 6 years ago

Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Olivier Dobberkau

The Board and the EAB of the TYPO3 Association decided to introduce the Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association.

This Budget Application takes care of the different aspects of the process that is needed to install the Job position.

  • Job description
  • Staffing Committee
  • Legal & Contract Counseling
  • Job Advert & Publication of the position
  • Compensation Plan
  • Travel Expenses
  • Introduction Costs
  • Miscellaneous
  • External Costs for the Contract Handling

Due to the confidential nature of this Application we will only announce a ball park figure as a place holder here:

up to 150.000,00 EURO or up to 30% of the available TYPO3 Association Yearly Budget 2014.


Replies (15)

RE: Job Position of a General Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Michael Stucki about 6 years ago

Hey Rasmus,

Rasmus Skjoldan wrote:

This is the job right? http://typo3.org/news/article/typo3-association-seeks-executive-secretary/

I guess you just changed the title from executive to general?

Thanks for pointing on it! You're right of course. The title wasn't clear in the beginning, therefore the different wording. I have changed the application now to avoid confusion.

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Rasmus Skjoldan about 6 years ago

Hi,

Thanks – just had to be sure about whether or not this was actually the same!

According to http://typo3.org/news/article/typo3-association-seeks-executive-secretary/

...the "ideal candidate" would have to be:

"Fluent in spoken and written German, English and preferably another language"

I think it's quite problematic to be looking for someone who (ideally) is fluent in spoken and written German. This is an international Association budget – yet by looking for a German-speaking person we have already ruled out the majority of experienced international candidates that could take the job of both facilitating the large German TYPO3 market and help advance the TYPO3 project beyond German-speaking countries.

If the budget application goes through and a German-speaking candidate is selected, then he or she will quite probably have more focus on the German-speaking countries than if we hired someone who specifically was put in charge of helping us expand beyond Germany. I think we need to turn around the tendency seen at http://www.google.dk/trends/explore?q=typo3#q=typo3&cmpt=q – not strengthen that movement of being an open source CMS for the German market. There has been other cases of Association budgets being spent on activities that primarily or only help German agencies in Germany – which I, coming from a Danish agency, find somewhat problematic. Association-funded activities that only impact the German market is of virtally no value in Denmark – or any other country in the world giving funds to the Association.

Right now, we have some attention in the US for example. Why not find an experienced open source advocate in the US? It's just an example – my main point is that I find it "unfair" to all members outside of Germany to rule out world-class candidates for this job. I realize that the Association must be especially helpful in Germany as this is where the market currently is – but I don't see why a candidate not fluent in German could help out sufficiently in Germany.

I think it's important that all Association members benefit from their member fees – both the many German agencies and freelancers – and anyone else. Could you perhabs explain why you find it important that the Association seeks an executive assistant that is fluent in German? It would be really nice to hear the thoughts behind that decision. Maybe I am wrong about this because there is something I don't know.

Apart from this part of the budget application, I am totally in favor of the idea in general. It has been discussed for many years and I want to sincerely thank your for moving on this now. I think it will be a great help – even regardless of the language.

All the best, Rasmus Skjoldan

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Jo Hasenau about 6 years ago

Although I understand, that it might be helpful to have a German speaking person for the job when the association has many German members, on the one hand I second Rasmus' opinion.
The job description contains close to nothing that would require German and the association is based in Switzerland, so French could be an option.
Aiming for a global market, there might be other languages like Chinese, Hindi, Russian, Arabic, Spanish or Portuguese, which could be more important.

But asking statistics German is at least among the top ten of spoken languages worldwide, English is number one and the job description asks for another language as a requirement.
So after all it is not that bad ...

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Michael Stucki about 6 years ago

Hey Rasmus & Joey,

I will check back if that was really needed. Will get back to you soon...

Greetings, Michael

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Ric van Westhreenen about 6 years ago

Just to give some inside information, at the moment we have more job-applicants from outside German-speaking countries. We prefer the ideal candidate, but we also need to be realistic and accept the most ideal person. That could be someone who is not that fluent in German (like me...).

I'll review the text, and since it causes some misunderstandings, I'll probably change it on that part.

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Steffen Gebert about 6 years ago

Switzerland is (partly) German speaking, so maybe that's the reason, why it would help to speak a language of the country where the T3A does business - thus French would be an equal alternative (if the argument of Switzerland counts)

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Volker Graubaum about 6 years ago

I miss the cost chart. You wrote, that we need about 150.000 €, so you must have an idea for what.

I can't see it right now.

Greetings Volker

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Ric van Westhreenen about 6 years ago

I quote "Due to the confidential nature of this Application we will only announce a ball park figure as a place holder here:". That explains it all. Even the components of what this amount stands for is not shared at the moment, since the application is ongoing.

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Christian Müller about 6 years ago

I don't really understand what is confidential about this application? Could you explain that?

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Ric van Westhreenen about 6 years ago

Since the application is still running, we don't want to have the salary amount in the open, other than is stated in the job advertisment. The salary is still a matter of negotiation with the eventual candidate. However, as can be read in the job advertisment, it will be between 50.000 and 80.000 euro. The rest of the budget is reserved for enabling costs.

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Christian Müller about 6 years ago

Ok, but then a detailed listing of costs with the one position of actual salary being entered as between 50.000-80.000 should work?

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Volker Graubaum about 6 years ago

Christian Mueller wrote:

Ok, but then a detailed listing of costs with the one position of actual salary being entered as between 50.000-80.000 should work?

That's waht I mean :-)

RE: Job Position of an Executive Secretary to the TYPO3 Association - Added by Ric van Westhreenen about 6 years ago

Guys, please read what it says. "*a ball park figure as a place holder*". That's clearly the definition of not going to or being able to do an exact calculation of the numbers, if that's what you ask for.

And even if we did an "exact" calculation of that, it still stays a ball park figure, because we don't have any historical data that can be used for comparison. This is as transparent as it gets folks.

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