Task #53969

Renaming the generic term "Template" (as used for TS Template)

Added by most wanted almost 6 years ago. Updated almost 5 years ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Should have
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Category:
Backend User Interface
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Start date:
2013-11-26
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TYPO3 Version:
6.2
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Description

The term "Template" (as used for
"typoscript template") should be changed to something else/less generic? "Template"
can be confusing (at least) for beginners as it is
generelly used for something like html/view temlates.

Please have a look at the Template backend module (attached screenshot) and how the term
"Template" is used there. This should be improved.

There is also a threat at http://forum.typo3.org/index.php/t/200500/ about this topic.

template.png View (111 KB) most wanted, 2013-11-26 10:20

typoscript-template.png View (77 KB) most wanted, 2013-12-23 23:27


Related issues

Related to TYPO3 Core - Feature #57189: Rename BE module "Template" to "TypoScript" Rejected 2014-03-22

History

#1 Updated by Gerrit Code Review almost 6 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Under Review

Patch set 1 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/25693

#2 Updated by most wanted almost 6 years ago

Further more it will be necessary to update translations on http://translation.typo3.org - I will also take care of this after this is merged!

I guess als the documentation on typo3.org will have to be updated after this is merged - i will try to support the documentation team in this area but will need some guidance.

#3 Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 5 years ago

Patch set 2 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/25693

#4 Updated by Jens Hoffmann over 5 years ago

Hi,

what should it be called, if not "Templates"? It's only
about Templates and Template configuration. And as
we are in TYPO3 it's a representation of TYPO3's way
to deal with Templates. I don't see an issue here. But
maybe I didn't got the point.

Greez Jens

#5 Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 5 years ago

Patch set 3 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/25693

#6 Updated by most wanted over 5 years ago

hi jens,

thank you for your reply!

I think it would be better to use the term "TypoScript Templates" wherever possible.

Please see the enclosed typoscript-template.png and compare it to the initially enclosed template.png.

...the changes reflect this patch: https://review.typo3.org/#/c/25693/

Infact the difference is not that big at all - but i think it would be less confusing.

what do you think?

kind regards

roland

#7 Updated by most wanted over 5 years ago

It's only
about Templates and Template configuration. And as
we are in TYPO3 it's a representation of TYPO3's way
to deal with Templates.

What do you mean with "Template" here? Frontend HTML-CSS-JS-Templates? TypoScript-Templates?

TypoScript is not only about dealing with HTML-CSS-JS-Templates. It is also used for other things like configuring TYPO3 extensions or the caching behaviour of TYPO3.

Infact I think also "TypoScript Template" is not the best term for it - i guess something like "TypoScript record" would be more appropriate. But as "TypoScipt Template" is known well in the TYPO3 community i guess it would not be that easy to drop the term "Template" completely...

...but if you think this would get enough support in the community i would love to offer my help to update TYPO3 backend labels, texts and documentation!

Quote from "TypoScript kurz & gut" (Patrick Lobacher, 1st edition):

"Der Begriff 'Template' ist etwas unglücklich gewählt, da man mit 'Template' generell in der IT eine Vorlage bezeichnet, die als Basis dient und dann an den jeweiligen Einsatzzweck angepasst wird, indem dort Platzhalter mit aktuellen Informationen ausgetauscht werden. [...] TypoScript-Templates sind keine Vorlagen im klassischen Sinn, sondern damit wird der TypoScript-Code bezeichnet, mit dem die Ausgabe von Inhalten konfiguriert und gesteuert werden kann."

#8 Updated by Felix Kopp almost 5 years ago

  • Status changed from Under Review to Closed

Hi everyone,

thank you for the fruit-full discussion.
There are initiatives to implement Themes and further distinction of technology TS-Template/HTML-Template.

Up until then the term is set - sadly.
No further changes should be done up until then.

The bigger problem right now is: Typoscript vs. TSconfig which is discussed separately.

Thank you!

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