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Bug #83566

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Confusing dialog when pasting contentelements/records in BE

Added by Mark Huijser almost 7 years ago. Updated about 4 years ago.

Status:
Closed
Priority:
Should have
Assignee:
-
Category:
Backend User Interface
Target version:
-
Start date:
2018-01-15
Due date:
% Done:

100%

Estimated time:
TYPO3 Version:
8
PHP Version:
7.1
Tags:
Complexity:
easy
Is Regression:
Sprint Focus:

Description

Hi,

Probably you guys discussed this before, but i couldn't find anything about it. Feel free to point me in the right direction.

I found that it confuses our editors that the copy/paste dialogs in the TYPO3 backend use other (wrong) terminology.

The Paste action regularly asks something like "Do you want to copy ..." , and adds a "Copy" button to the dialog;
Also, the following is asked when pasting: "Copy .... into ..."

Shouldn't that be "Do you want to paste ..." and "Paste ... into ..." ? With of course a button which says "Paste" .

I hope you can change this behaviour in future versions of TYPO3. Thanks in advance.

Kind regards,

Mark Huijser
EO

Actions #1

Updated by Riccardo De Contardi almost 6 years ago

I think - correct me if I am wrong - that this comes from this reason:

there are two separate commands in the context menu when you "cut" a content element:

- copy > whose result is to copy the content element elsewhere
- cut > whose result is to move the content element elsewhere

- the icon in the destination column says "paste in this column" or "paste after this record"
- in the same context menu there is also a "paste after" which copies or moves the content element accordingly to the "original" action.

A possible solution could be:

- use a single "cut" original action
- let the people choose what to do "do you want to copy" or "do you want to move" the object in the modal window that follows the "paste" action (this would be consistent with the drag and drop interface in the pagetree, I think)
this would however be a deep change of behavior.

Actions #2

Updated by Christian Kuhn over 4 years ago

Ok, let's break this down a bit.

1.
The clipboard (accessible via list module) has a drop down to toggle between 'move elements' (default) and 'copy elements'. The 'insert stuff from clipboard' icons in list and page module and context menu always say "Paste" at title tag, regardless of the state of the drop down. This is "not precise" to say the least ... my personal feeling is, it should state 'copy' in copy mode and 'paste' in paste mode. For the page module, this is worse, since the clipboard isn't even rendered there.
This gives a nice UX question: A user sets clipboard in list module to copy-mode, then forgets about that. The user later uses cut/paste in page module and then the module magically copies. That can be unexpected and maybe the copy vs. paste mode should be solved differently in the backend.

2.
If clipboard is in copy mode, the page module popup-modal if clicking a paste button states in its title "Paste record", but in it's body "Do you want to copy the record to this position?". This is imho a bug, the title should be "Copy record" in this case.

I suggest to fix 2. with this issue and keep the question for the general usability of the copy/paste mode in clipboard open for another issue.

Actions #3

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Under Review

Patch set 1 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65190

Actions #4

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

Patch set 2 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65190

Actions #5

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

Patch set 3 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65190

Actions #6

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

Patch set 4 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65190

Actions #7

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

Patch set 5 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65190

Actions #8

Updated by Gerrit Code Review over 4 years ago

Patch set 1 for branch 10.4 of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/65199

Actions #9

Updated by Christian Kuhn over 4 years ago

  • Status changed from Under Review to Resolved
  • % Done changed from 0 to 100
Actions #10

Updated by Benni Mack about 4 years ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to Closed
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