TYPO3 Core

Just curious, why do you want to sort the items in a XML sitemap? It's just a unordered list of pages as hint for the search engines for crawling. Sorting does not matter?

For an RSS Feed.

(Otherwise the sorting option in general wouldn't be needed)

Patch set 2 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/61379

There is a clear reason why the items are not sorted reversed. If there is a new item, it will make all pages of the sitemap change (the sitemaps are paginated). And it is best to keep the url's within the same sitemap link.

Why do you want to reverse sort news items in a sitemap? Do you have a specific use-case?

[EDIT] Sorry, see that you already mentioned your use-case in a comment. RSS has a clearly other purpose and you want other data as well. The RSS specification is also very different from the XML sitemap specification. So what is exactly the use-case?

Yes, RSS feed!
And I guess also google news sitemap

Why not using this for RSS? By settings a different template.

Patch set 3 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/61379

Adding the sorting direction is arguable, but the reason for using it for RSS is not a good one for me. It means that we always should keep in mind that people are misusing this feature for other purposes what makes decisions harder sometimes. I would really like this feature to stick with its purpose: being a XML sitemap for SEO purposes.

So personally I don’t like to have this option into the XML sitemap feature. If we want a good RSS option in core, we can easily create that feature especially for RSS feeds.

We dug deep in our internal history and couldn't find the reasoning why we tried to use this core feature anymore.
We kept using the previously existing things for RSS and other stuff.

So from the use-case point of view: I have no problem with abandoning this change.

In general though, if I can sort stuff, why can't I define the direction?

On XML generating stuff in general: Why duplicating a lot of code, if this thing for SEO already does, what is needed?

• Fetch some records
• Build detail links
• Render them with an arbitrary template

That matches actually for any XML export one could imagine.

Patch set 4 for branch master of project Packages/TYPO3.CMS has been pushed to the review server.
It is available at https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/61379

I think this issue can be closed. Besides that with the introduction of https://review.typo3.org/c/Packages/TYPO3.CMS/+/61568 you can use the same code for different use cases and can implement your own features if you want.