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Bug #11481

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Naming of "Release" mass action is unclear

Added by Francois Suter almost 14 years ago. Updated about 6 years ago.

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Closed
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Should have
Category:
Workspaces
Target version:
-
Start date:
2010-12-15
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Description

Among the possible mass actions from the workspaces module, is the "Release" action which rolls back all changes. I find this wording not very clear. Indeed "Release" could be seen as nearly a synonym of "Publish" (as in releasing your changes into the wild). What about "Cancel changes" or "Undo changes"?


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11481.patch (4.06 KB) 11481.patch Sonja Schubert, 2011-01-16 20:09

Related issues 2 (0 open2 closed)

Related to TYPO3 Core - Bug #11587: Trash icon should "discard" tooClosedTolleiv Nietsch2010-12-20

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Has duplicate TYPO3 Core - Bug #12182: Incorrect wording for discarding changesClosed2011-01-13

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Actions #1

Updated by Tolleiv Nietsch almost 14 years ago

+1 for "undo changes"

Actions #2

Updated by Tolleiv Nietsch almost 14 years ago

  • Status changed from New to Accepted
  • Target version set to 4.5 Beta 3
Actions #3

Updated by Tolleiv Nietsch almost 14 years ago

Imho "Undo" instead of "Undo changes" would fit a bit better, especially because the other two labels are also quite short ("Publish", "Swap") ;) - any opinions?

Actions #4

Updated by Francois Suter almost 14 years ago

I'm unsure. Just "Undo" may cause confusion because it might lead users to think that they can undo the latest action that they performed in the BE module.

Maybe my other proposal "Cancel changes" is better after all.

BTW (but maybe this should be a separate issue), I thought some more and there should be a real consistency between the various actions in the various places were they can be performed. I mean that you should be able to publish, swap or "cancel/undo" no matter whether you are hovering over one item (the icons in the grid row), choosing an action after having selected one or more modified items or choosing a mass action. The only action that shouldn't be "mass" is the sending to another stage.

This leads me one step further: I also think that "mass action" is not a good wording. Indeed when you have selected several modified records and choose an action you are de facto performing a mass action. I would suggest to move the mass action menu out of the data grid, to more clearly show that it is not related to a selection performed in the grid. OK, this is definitely the topic for another issue, but I'm a bit in a hurry right now and just wanted to write it down.

Actions #5

Updated by Sonja Schubert almost 14 years ago

I agree with Tolleiv, I would take "Undo" as it is short. But I would then use a clear description in the popup like "Undo all changes from whole workspace".

Actions #6

Updated by Francois Suter almost 14 years ago

I agree with Tolleiv, I would take "Undo" as it is short.

The length of the label should not be a criterion of choice. What should guide us is that the label should be explicit enough. I still think that just "undo" is a bad idea, because it may lead users to think that they can undo the actions they have just taken (especially since - as I still think - the mass action menu is ambiguously place in the interface IMO). Even "undo changes" might not be clear enough. Maybe "cancel changes" is the better choice.

Actions #7

Updated by Tolleiv Nietsch almost 14 years ago

  • Status changed from Accepted to Needs Feedback

Or favorite is "rollback ..." - but we're going to ask the HCI team

Actions #8

Updated by Tolleiv Nietsch almost 14 years ago

  • Target version changed from 4.5 Beta 3 to 4.5 RC1
Actions #9

Updated by Ingo Renner almost 14 years ago

Tolleiv Nietsch wrote:

Or favorite is "rollback ..." - but we're going to ask the HCI team

Rollback sounds good, I'd throw in "Discard", too to add more choices ;)

I wouldn't go with Undo though as that usually is related to the last/previous action. I'm also for leaving out changes since all of them are related to changes. When adding changes, it'd be more consistent to add changes to all of the options which would then obviously be very redundant...

Actions #10

Updated by Jens Hoffmann almost 14 years ago

So we got than:

  1. Publish
  2. Swap
  3. Release

I would also go for:

  1. Publish
  2. Swap
  3. Discard

In the screens (#10642) we sad:

  1. Publish
  2. Swap
  3. Reject
  4. Drop Changes

We should ask a native speaker about that.

Actions #11

Updated by Jeff Segars almost 14 years ago

Did someone ask for a native speaker? :)

Jens and I had a brief chat about this and I think "Discard" would be the right choice for the verb (something more descriptive like Discard Changes is fine too).

For the English version, the key thing is that the changes are in a temporary state which will be thrown away. Revert or undo make sense if the live record was being returned to its previous state, but not for this temporary state.

Thanks,
Jeff

Actions #12

Updated by Sonja Schubert almost 14 years ago

  • File 11481.patch 11481.patch added
  • Status changed from Needs Feedback to Under Review
  • Assignee set to Sonja Schubert

Thank you Jens and Jeff for your feedback. I created a patch for renaming the label and it's dependencies behind to "Discard"

Created a RFC in workspaces list, any feedback would be nice

Actions #13

Updated by Sonja Schubert almost 14 years ago

  • Status changed from Under Review to Resolved

commited to trunk (rev. 3871)

Actions #14

Updated by Michael Stucki almost 11 years ago

  • Category set to Workspaces
Actions #15

Updated by Michael Stucki almost 11 years ago

  • Project changed from 624 to TYPO3 Core
  • Category changed from Workspaces to Workspaces
  • Target version deleted (4.5 RC1)
Actions #16

Updated by Benni Mack about 6 years ago

  • Status changed from Resolved to Closed
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