Feature #59003
closedEnable Longdescurl in TYPO3 6.2
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Description
As said here : http://forge.typo3.org/projects/typo3cms-core/repository/revisions/f20ae08ec244133cff53acd52d17db746a0c85df
longdescurl had been removed because it's not implemented in FAL.
This attribute is a crucial point regarding accessibility. It's a must have.
Please enable the possibility to add a longdescurl in tt_content.
[UPDATE] As the latest comments state, we should have the possibility to set links inside figcaption but do not need to implement longdescurl again.
Updated by Markus Klein over 10 years ago
http://www.w3schools.com/tags/att_img_longdesc.asp
No browser support, no HTML5
http://www.w3.org/WAI/WCAG20/Techniques/ua-notes/html#H45
says it is supported in browsers.
Updated by Luc Muller over 10 years ago
Of course it's supported : http://www.w3.org/TR/html-longdesc/#intro
that's why I think it's a must have.
Furthermore, it should be implemented in FAL, with a link field and being overridable in tt_content.
Updated by Markus Klein over 10 years ago
You can add it for your own purposes, or even provide it as an extension for TYPO3
Steffen Ritter said:
You need an ext with a couple of files
ext_emconf ext_icon ex_tables.sql TCA/Override/sys_file_metadata TCA/Override/sys_file_reference locallang.xlf and some TypoScript
Updated by Luc Muller over 10 years ago
It's kinda obvious we have to redevelop features that were part of the core and had been removed for strange reasons.
By the way, if I implemented this by myself I'll do it in a way that fits my need, but I'm quite sure it won't fit generic needs and/or comply with community taste of quality.
Well, I'll have a look at what I can achieve, but should'nt it be easier that the teams in charge of either Fal, css_styled_content or accessibility take that into account ?
TYPO3 is providing some gouvernemental package... this should be implemented as a core feature in such distribution I think.
Updated by Luc Muller over 10 years ago
Further Information
@mattur on twitter pointed something out : https://twitter.com/mattur/status/483710007192846337
It seems to be no consensus on longdescurl.
W3C seems to say "you should use longdescurl to provide a link to access the description of an image : https://dvcs.w3.org/hg/html-proposals/raw-file/ac507017569f/longdesc1/longdesc.html
But discussions on the newslists are still trying to find a better approach for this concept.
See this post from apple : http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-a11y/2014Jun/0115.html
Well for now, this is what I think (personnal opinion).
- LongDescUrl might not be the best way to provide descriptions of an image.
- I agree that the best would be to have some self describing content, and or image could be described in the content of the page. Maybe with a simple link on the image.
But, as it was part of the core, I think we should try bring it back. Then wait to see if W3C and/or accessibility experts find a consensus on how to make picture accessible to visually impaired users.
Updated by Riccardo De Contardi about 9 years ago
- Category set to Content Rendering
Updated by Benni Mack over 8 years ago
- Status changed from New to Needs Feedback
Can you provide me with a link that longdescurl is a "must have" (!) for accessibility? I searched through the web and 90% of the sites I found were about TYPO3 - this sounds strange.
Updated by Freddy Tripold over 8 years ago
Yes, this is a must have, if you search for "wai +longdesc" you will find the correct pages. I don't know why this feature was removed, but there is also no need to reimplement it. As you can see, WAI itself say it will be better to use figcaption for this, https://www.w3.org/WAI/tutorials/images/complex/.
So the best way for the future will be to make it possible to set a link inside the figcaption.
Updated by Alexander Opitz about 8 years ago
- Status changed from Needs Feedback to New
- Assignee set to Benni Mack
@Benni Mack: There was response for you.
Updated by Susanne Moog about 7 years ago
- Description updated (diff)
- Category changed from Content Rendering to Frontend
Updated by Benni Mack about 6 years ago
- Status changed from New to Closed
Figcaption is now in place in all templates for the description with FAL. On top, links can be set there - and (in case of our projects, depending on the requirement) we can activate a minimal RTE within there.
Updated by Benni Mack over 4 years ago
- Sprint Focus changed from PRC to Needs Decision